CWGC Grave of J. Bates

CWGC: Bates, John, Private, 3839, 2nd/5th Battalion, Nottinghamshire & Derbyshire Regiment
Died 13th December 1915
Aged 32
Son of John & Martha Alice Bates; husband of Rose Bates, of 32 Mill St, Belper, DerbyBuried in Kirk Ireton (Holy Trinity) Churchyard
1911 Census
John Bates was aged 28years old. He worked as a baker and resided at Town Street, Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire He was born at Wigan, Lancashire.

Derby Daily Telegraph, Thursday, 16th December 1915:

Soldier's Sudden Death at Idridgehay

On Monday last a very sudden death took place at the above village. Private J Bates, aged 32, of the Sherwood Foresters, who had been on a weekend furlough to visit his wife and family at Kirk Ireton, was wending his way to Idridgehay Station to rejoin his regiment, when some children who were playing about at the time noticed the soldier fall. As he made no attempt to get up, the children procured assistance, and the poor fellow was picked up and carried into the Swan Inn. Dr Broster, who shortly afterwards was passing through the village, was called in by Mr E Stone, the licensee of the Swan Inn, but the doctor could only pronounce life to be extinct. As a sequel to the above, an inquest was held on the body at the Swan Inn on Wednesday by Mr R W Sale, of Derby (Coroner for the district). Dr Broster testified that the cause of death was heart disease and the jury returned a verdict to that effect.”
No trace on 1911 Census
Born Bolton, Lancashire
Son of John, a baker, and Martha Alice Bates, of Flat Yard, Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire
John appears on the 1901 Census living with his parents in Queen Street, Belper, Derbyshire

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The Black Swan Inn (formerly The White Swan Inn in 1915), Idridgehay

Service Records: WO 363/B663, Row 7, Drawer 30, Pages 165 to 175

Territorial Force Attestation Form:

Name & Address: John Bates, Main Street, Kirk Ireton

Attested to serve with: 2nd/5th Bn Notts & Derby Regiment

Regimental Number: 3839

Enlisted: Derby on 17th February 1915

Statement of Service:

Rank From To

Attested Private 17th February 1915

Embodied Service Private 17th February 1915 13th December 1915

29th Provisional Battalion Private 13th November 1915
attached from 2nd/5th

Died Private 13th December 1915

Total service in the Territorial Force to 13th December 1915: 272 Days

Character: Good

Discharged in consequence of having died.

Discharge signed and dated 17th January 1916.

Army Form W 5080:

Widow of soldier: Rose Bates

Children: Edith Bates, born 7th November 1906
Doris Bates, born 29th March 1908

Address: 32 Mill Street, Belper

Father: John Bates, Kirk Ireton, Nr Derby

Mother: Martha Alice Bates

Brothers: Stephen, Aged 43, Queen Street, Belper
George, Aged 38, East Kirkby, Nr Mansfield

Form signed by Rose Bates at Belper on 19th May 1919

Request for family details for plaque and scroll:

Address given as c/o Mr Fox, Mill Street, Belper

Letter from Derbyshire Constabulary:

From: Supt. Clarke, Matlock

To: The Officer Commanding 29th Provisional Battalion, Wivenhoe, Essex

Date: January 6th 1916


Re 3839 Late Private John Bates

I beg to inform you that on the 15th December '15, R W Sale Esq., HM Coroner of Derby, held an inquest at “The White Swan Inn”, Idridgehay, Nr Derby, on the body of the above named, when the jury gave the following verdict:- “That the deceased died from heart disease” (Sgd) R W Sale.

I am, Sir, Your Obedient Servant,

J Clarke, Superintendent

Army Form B179 - Medical Report On An Invalid

Station: Watford

Date: 29th August 1915

Unit: 2nd/5th Sherwood Foresters

Regimental Number: 3839

Rank: Private

Name: Bates, J

Age Last Birthday: 32

Enlisted on: 16th February 1915 at Derby

Former Trade or Occupation: Baker and confectioner

Disability: 404 Chronic bronchitis with thickening pleura (?TB)

Date of Origin of Disability: March 1915

Place of Origin of Disability: L????? Section

Essential Facts of the Disability: He says that in L???? he had to sleep on a wet bed and shortly afterwards he developed a severe cough with expectoration and stabbing pains in his left side. He attended sick parade for a few weeks and then he had crepitations all over both lungs and was subject to fits of coughing with palpatations, which put him back for a few days. He lost flesh and had palpatations which made him feel very weak.

Opinion to Cause of Disability: Unknown

If you consider it caused by active service, climate, or ordinary
military service - explain specific conditions: Not so caused

Recommended - Discharge as permanently unfit for war service.

Dated: 9th September 1915

What is His Present Condition: There is a dullness over the whole of the right base and also a small patch over the left apex. There are no abnormal accompaniments at the moment. He has lost a lot of flesh lately and looks very anaemic. He is quite unfit to march.

Opinion of the Medical Board: Permanently unfit for service.

The disiability is not aggravated by intemperance or misconduct.

Is disability permanent: Yes

Recommendation: Discharge as permanently unfit for war service.

Watford, dated 9th September 1915

Approved by the Colonel of the ADMS NM Division on 13th September 1915.


Medical Inspection Report:

Apparent Age: 31 Yrs, 11 Mths

Height: 5 feet, 4 inches

Chest when fully expanded: 38 inches

Range of Expansion: 2 inches

Vision: Fit

Physical Development: Fit

Passed Medical: 17th February 1915
Kirk Ireton
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